Do You Think The 'Dead' Can Help Us?

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Do You Think The 'Dead' Can Help Us?

Post by Sherryanne » 06 Oct 2016 17:06

I ask this as there was a time when I thought they could. Now I am not sure. Maybe they can only do this by giving us strength and support to carry on?

When my mum died I was naïve enough to think I would see her again physically within a few days. She had a very strong belief and said she saw all her relatives, her mum and dad during the weeks up to her death. She also kept looking up and saying what she saw was so beautiful and gave her such a wonderful feeling she could not describe it. All her life she had feared death, not of going on elsewhere, but of the death itself. She suffered panic attacks for many years and was a very scared woman. But those few weeks before she died and after having seen her loved ones who had passed over she was calm and actually happy to be going apart from not wanting to leave her husband and kids. But she was so convincing in her belief I really thought I would see her physically. Especially as she predicted some things which were accurate.

But so far I haven't seen her, although as I have explained in another thread, I have seen her in my dreams,

It is silly, I know, to think they will be able to stop our sufferings here on earth but if that was true none of us would suffer. Even so I find this very hard to accept and it feels sort of lonely to think we can't get help from above if we need it.

Or maybe guardian angels are the ones permitted to do that, or God. It's just I am not sure God is a person or is the energy of love that links us all. I really hope we can tap into that energy as there are times in all our lives when we need that sort of help and hope.


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Re: Do You Think The 'Dead' Can Help Us?

Post by bluelighttouch » 06 Oct 2016 18:12

You have so many questions and no answers.. You want to be reassured, that you mum is safe, not in pain and if she is happy and you want her to stand before you physically and actually tell you this...
First off, you may be opening up to spirit but you have a long way to go.. It takes years ..
It took for my nan, an experienced Medium, to come thru to me 23 years in fact and only the once...

Not all Mediums see spirit physically, that is rare.. When the tutors at the College of Psychic Science found out that I could see spirit, they immediately took me out of my group and put me in the advanced group.. This is how it happened..

I was in a large lecture room with 83 Mediums and a tutor was doing a Trance & Transfiguration demonstration.. I was right at the back of the room.. I was 60 ft away from them..

She began working and tbh I couldn't see much so I just listened to her, I had a sketch pad with me.. Some thing made me look up and to the right of the podium I could see 5 figures materialising before me.. Wow I could clearly see them and they were sort of stacked up one behind the other.. I began to ask mentally of my guides who was this and I got the initials GH.. I knew then who it was.. The person behind him, I identified for a portrait later that day.
At the end of the 'Demonstration' I had sketched the figures and timed the experience made nots and observed others to see if the ones nearer to the podium saw it too.They were there for 6 minutes!!

At the end I listen to people asking questions, no one saw.. So I asked the Medium and I described what I had seen and I was at the back.. "2 others saw the same thing but not with any clarity. One gave me his card...They were only 15 ft away..
So out of 80 Mediums only 3 saw anything and only I saw it clearly... I was quite shocked afterwards.. Cos I'd left my moby in my room dammn it lol.

So you can see,what you are expecting, may not be possible for you.. As it is soo rare..
Some of our Chiefs believe the land belongs to them...
But that is not what The Great Spirit told me... He said No one owns the land, that the land belongs to him. We are just keepers of the land, for our children and for their childrens childen.


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Re: Do You Think The 'Dead' Can Help Us?

Post by Sherryanne » 06 Oct 2016 20:01

I don't expect to ever be a medium, but I am thankful of the things I have seen and experienced. I have seen just a handful of spirits - one being my dog and he looked like he did physically and right in front of me. The others I didn't know or were also animals.

I wondered of your thoughts and others on if we can be helped or healed by spirits or guardian angels.

That must have been an intriguing and fantastic experience to see what you did, especially out of all those people. Thank you for sharing such an interesting part of your life.


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Re: Do You Think The 'Dead' Can Help Us?

Post by bluelighttouch » 07 Oct 2016 13:33

I was in a state of shock after :lol: I would have thought so many more would have seen it too.
The man I saw with the intials of GH was Gordon Higginson a former Tutor there and this lecture room was his room. .The Medium Eileen Davies, told me after that he does some times appear when she is working in his room.. So she knew that was I recounted was genuine.. I had been told to go to the book shop and ask to see a picture of Gorden, they showed me one and it definately was him... Later that day I was in the on site museum and saw a portrait of the other figure. It seems he was a prominent Spiritualst about 120 years ago The Rev J. Jackson.
The other 3 figues were like a statue/ bust in stone, one looked greco roman..
All fascinating..
Yon asked if they can help us.. Well in my experience yes they can...
I had a reading about 2 years back and instantly the Medium got my mum, she traced the outline of my mum in the air and I knew instantly,, My mum had Oesteoporosis and she had a hump back... She said my mum was asking why I was not wearing the beautiful ring she gave me... I said it was far too small as my mother had tiny hands... Well make it bigger then came back.. So I was being told to do this.. I know its daft but I never thought of it...

So I have had it made larger now and I have never taken it off since...
Some of our Chiefs believe the land belongs to them...
But that is not what The Great Spirit told me... He said No one owns the land, that the land belongs to him. We are just keepers of the land, for our children and for their childrens childen.


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Re: Do You Think The 'Dead' Can Help Us?

Post by Sherryanne » 09 Oct 2016 10:57

That's lovely your mum was able to tell you about the ring. It's strange the things we don't think about doing. I read a book written my Gordon Higgins but I don't remember too much about it. I remember his picture on the front. How strange that you saw other spirit in the way you did. Just shows they work in all sorts of ways. I have my mum's ring too but it is a little tight so I cannot wear it all the time. Mind you, I am on a diet so it may fit fine eventually lols.

I have a story about my mum's ring. Actually there are two rings. When she was moved to a major hospital from the town one the staff took mum's valuables and put them in a bag for me and dad to take home. They were in a brown envelope (Though I swear it was a small brown paper bag) I put this bag on top of an old jewellery box in the dining room at dad's. For the next 6 weeks it was mayhem with what was happening to mum. I told dad where I had put the rings and said, remember they are in this bag. Don't throw it away. Mum came home for exactly a week and then passed away. The rings were still there where I put them. After mum died I told dad again, don't throw that bag with mum's rings in. He replied, 'I know what they are,'
Then after mum's funeral I realised the bag had gone. I did all dad's cleaning and cooking and looked after him. I went every day so I know there was only us could have moved them I knew I hadn't and dad swore he hadn't either. Dad was a clear headed man and very careful about things.

Over the next year and a half I lost track of the amount of times I and dad, together and independently, had every cupboard stripped out. Even in the kitchen and every room in the house just incase we had forgotten we'd moved them. Dad was really upset and so was I. Eventually I gave up and it was a subject dad would bring up now and again, saying he couldn't understand it. I thought dad must have accidently thrown the brown bag in those early days after mum dying.

Then dad was taken ill and ended up in hospital and then a rehab centre (Consultants didn't realise he was dying and were preparing him for home) He had only been at rehab 5 days when an independent geriatric consulted visited the centre and took me aside in the corridor to say I was right in my fears that dad was dying and that if he was his dad he would want to get the family around him. The staff asked me of resuscitation wishes and I could tell them straight away dad would not want that and that he and I had signed a form with the area Matron and I would bring it up. She said I would need an up to date one and arranged for me to pick one up from his GP. Only problem was when I got there the surgery had closed for the afternoon. I went straight to the rehab centre and told the manager. She was worried that if anything happened to dad that day or in the night he would have to be resuscitated without the written confirmation. I again remembered the one in dad's cupboard and said I would phone my husband to bring it up as it was less than a year old. It was better than nothing.

So I immediately phoned my husband and directed him exactly to where this form was in the cupboard. My brother was also with him and they went together to dad's. Less than ten minutes later my husband phoned me back and told me, 'We have found and your mum's rings. They were right beside the consent form I had directed them to. They were in a brown envelope and written on it were. 'Two rings. One plain band and one red and white stoned'

I never recalled them being in an envelope but they must have been. I did not recognise the writing so must have been the nurses.

This cupboard had been searched many times by myself and my dad. I knew what was in there and it had been used since as all dad's medical information was in there. It was in the lounge where dad always was. To find these on the day I had been told dad was dying seems more than coincidence. I feel we weren't meant to have them until this time as a sign mum was with us. When I told dad he was over the moon and kept saying, 'It must be your mum!'


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Re: Do You Think The 'Dead' Can Help Us?

Post by bluelighttouch » 09 Oct 2016 13:56

OK, re the rings... I used to fill in a patients property book.. We had a specific way of documenting it. We were not allowed to say gold ring, it had to be Yellow metal ring.. We were not allowed to say Diamonds and rubies we had to say white and red stones... We also had to note if damaged ie stones missing.. They would be recorded in the property book and the items placed in a brown envelope that had the contents listed on the front.. It was never a bag.. We also had to seal it and 2 nurses had to sign across the seal on the back...

If the ring is a bit tight, even after your diet you can have the ring 'stretched' that is not the same as I did where they had to add gold to make it bigger..

DNR's I think are a disgrace.. Its just not right unless its a major brain trauma...
Some of our Chiefs believe the land belongs to them...
But that is not what The Great Spirit told me... He said No one owns the land, that the land belongs to him. We are just keepers of the land, for our children and for their childrens childen.


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Re: Do You Think The 'Dead' Can Help Us?

Post by Sherryanne » 09 Oct 2016 17:19

The envelope was sealed. But just goes to show how the memory is as both I and dad thought it was a brown paper bag as we commented on it being a daft idea. Maybe some coins were in that, but I have no memory of the envelope. Even so, it was face up and clearly visible on the shelf besides the form so I don't understand how we hadn't noticed it there with the writing on.

The DNRs - is that what the resus paper is called? My mum and dad had had proper discussions on not wanting to be resuscitated should something major happen and their heart stop. They were both in bad health which was not going to get better for several years before they passed. Mum was practically immobile, sat in a chair all day and was on oxygen for last three years. Many times I found her turned blue when she had taken the nose piece off for just a few minutes. She had had enough. And dad had suffered a stroke, had advanced prostrate cancer plus heart problems and infected legs due to lack of circulation. He had a hellish time towards the end and those last few days I cried and prayed he would not wake up to be aware of the further extent of his body's condition. Horrible times and I am sure many many others have had that suffering too, Not good.


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Re: Do You Think The 'Dead' Can Help Us?

Post by bluelighttouch » 09 Oct 2016 22:16

I really feel your pain,as my dad was dying of cancer and although we got him into a Palliative care unit, similar to a hospice.. They did not treat him well, were very slow with Pain relief and even in basic care.. I was appaulled!!! At times I wondered if I should actively give him a bit extra pain relief!!! But in the end I gave him lots of Reiki whichhe was grateful to have as it was faster and more effective than Oramorph .... So I do not blame you.. My Bug bear with DNR'sare those that are initiated purely cos of age... My gran was 102 and a half when she finaly passed and she knew exactly what was going on...
Some of our Chiefs believe the land belongs to them...
But that is not what The Great Spirit told me... He said No one owns the land, that the land belongs to him. We are just keepers of the land, for our children and for their childrens childen.


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Re: Do You Think The 'Dead' Can Help Us?

Post by Sherryanne » 10 Oct 2016 13:02

Thank you Blt you obviously know how it is to have to see your parent suffering in such a way. Dad was on the Orimorph. I remembered the name when I read it. I am still in disbelief at how a major hospital treated my dad, Five weeks there and they didn't know he was dying, and that was between two wards' consultants. The rehab place picked it up practically straight away but I suppose God moves in mysterious ways because although dad still suffered the staff could not have been more caring towards him or us. Dad was too ill to be moved so had to stay there but we were relieved he would not be sent back to a hospital. He had actually said he would not go back to hospital.

I do remember mum and dad being upset when those forms were first introduced and they had to discuss what they wanted. Even though they knew they didn't want the resuscitation they were upset they had to confront it and so was I, so I do understand what you mean. It seems very cold to be confronted with the question and make it official, although how the world is today with people suing each other left right and centre I suppose I can also see why they do it. I am off to see a medium for a one to one this Wednesday. She is not commercialised as such but I saw her after mum died. She didn't know me, nor I her - a distant friend told me about her. Fingers crossed she will be able to do another good reading.


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Re: Do You Think The 'Dead' Can Help Us?

Post by bluelighttouch » 10 Oct 2016 18:26

I hope you have some connection as it wil give you closure adn some peace of mind..

I had one of my partners mutual friends over today, she was upset she was not in the uk when he passed or when the funeral took place... So this afternoon, we basically had a couple of drinks and talked about him and the fact we could both feel his energy with us..

I told her of the things that have happened since he passed, the notes I found and showed her sone of the things... Whilst she was sitting here I sat in his armchair we were talking about him and I showed her the order of services for him with his photo on it and when I went to put it to one side I found a card I had not seen before.. It was from Pete.... In big black letters cos he knew my sight was crap.. It said I love you very much.. xx It hit us both... then I found a sweet he left me a nuttals mintoe lol and next to it was his pencil.. I never saw them before then.. it was under some papers on the coffee table and I had only cleared it off a week ago.
Some of our Chiefs believe the land belongs to them...
But that is not what The Great Spirit told me... He said No one owns the land, that the land belongs to him. We are just keepers of the land, for our children and for their childrens childen.

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